I recently filled in the context of a quote taken from the Koran and from the teachings of Mohammed.
I have no interest in promoting or denigrating Muslims or what they read or believe in.
I have a King. I serve Him and His Father in Heaven.
Muslims, who may have assisted in the WTC disaster, should know that those actions violated the teachings of Mohammed and Allah is displeased.
Hadeeth: The Prophet Mohammed said to his army before going to a fight:
"Depart in the name of Allah, and by his help. And kill not any old man nor young boy nor child, nor woman, But be good doers for Allah loves those who do good."
The Koran was originally written by Mohammed to preserve the Pentateuch and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I am not saying he did a good job or that Muslims as a whole teach that now. I am not even sure what so called Christians are doing for the most part about 'receiving, preserving, and propagating Jesus' doctrines and ordinances.'
Most Muslims are in just as much apostasy as the Christians who cheered as US troops bombed Iraq back to the stone age. As a matter of fact US planes were still dropping bombs on Iraq on September 4, 2001.
The US is being led down the path to destruction and they don't have far to go.
I received this response
> __
> I can sure agree with this.
>
> The one thing we as Christians always need to remember, is that Almighty God
> is ALSO King of the Muslims as well as all groups on earth. Jer.10:7
> clearly acknowledges Him as the King of Nations, (not ONLY just King of
> Israel! We should not shed innocent blood period, therefore since a war would
> necessarily shed innocent blood we should not go to war with a whole country
> for a few terrorists!
>
I also heard before the week was out that thousands of Afghanis were already fleeing over the boarder to escape American bombs and threats of bombs. Those are real people with real children and old parents and pregnant women ... with lives that are turned upside down by men who hate and want vengeance and blood.
At the same time I hear that some want to bomb "them" back into the stone age which is what the Russians already did and we pretty much did to other Arab countries. US aid did it to Iran and US bombs did it to Iraq.
I also heard that some pilots are carrying on flashlights and heavy objects to protect themselves, their crew and their planes. Those pilots who are carrying on heavy objects for their protection could each carry on a big rock and every one else should take a rock on board too.
Then if any hijackers try something the people can stop them by stoning them. It will be good
practice since if we judge it is right to bomb people back to the stone age for the sins of a few then we to will end up in the stone age too.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Matthew 7:2
There are some very courageous and good Americans who have real character but there seems to be a lot of lemmings out there that don't do much thinking at all.
A large number of people say they are afraid of flying now because of there might be more hijackers. Come on people think. The only reason they got away with this is because no one onboard thought they were going to fly into a building. Even with a lax security system caught off guard they only got on with box cutters.
People are taking about sending others to war to maybe cause the death of tens of thousands of innocent people as well as your own sons to get a man the US helped put in power. Some of the US Air craft will likely get shot down with our own Stinger Missiles. All this and you are afraid to fly in an airplane? Where is the American spirit that crossed the Atlantic in leaky boats to settled an untamed land.
I heard from a friend that they were collecting fingernail clippers from all people boarding planes. Fingernail clippers? What is going on here? Have people stopped thinking altogether? Maybe they will issue toe nail clippers to the pilots and they will have the passengers outgunned? Of course that is ridiculous but the whole thing is ridiculous. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
Actually, I think if all pilots had guns with bullets [even rubber bullets or bird shot] that wont go through the plane walls that this tragedy would have never happened. But if we did that then people might figure out that the right to bear arms is a good idea. But there are those who would not want you to realize that.
This whole thing of the WTC seemed remote to me at first. Almost surreal but real people were dying. Men struggled to save others in those buildings and died themselves. Evidently some passengers also rushed the hijackers once they knew what was happening. Even though the plane crashed they in their final act of bravery may have saved thousands of lives.
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
Families wept and will morn losses in America for years, the sound of voices once alive and loving will be heard no more in their homes. Wounds will go deep, some scar... some fester... All are real.
I also saw other things in the eyes of those who watched the destruction. People who put their faith in the structures of society were shocked as they so easily came crashing down. Emotions and feelings were subjectively jerked around in America by words and images coming from the never ending media.
I don't see death the same as I was taught as a young man when I look into the matrix of the world view. We all die or face death but we don't all really live.
Real death is coveting life. When we covet our lives and the lives of others and the gifts of God we stop the flow of the "blood" of His Holy Spirit. Like hardening of the arteries we strangle ourselves with selfishness and hate.
God is the giver of life with infinite love, faith, hope and charity. If we are made in His image we should manifest His character.
The real murder and death did not take place in the flames and collapse of steel and concrete but in the turning away from God by the usurpation of His judgment. By judging the wickedness in others in our own wicked pride full hearts we supplant God and become devoid of His Character.
I have heard so many say we should hunt down those responsible, and bomb the hell out of them.
We already bombed the hell out of 'them'. That is why they could find men to do this. We already killed innocent civilians by the thousands in other countries for years.
I can still remember my own shock as people cheered with shouts of "bulls eye" as Iraq was hit with one missile after another. We did not try to bomb civilians but we bombed their bridges, power plants and about every thing else that would be used to run a country. Some say we literally bombed them back into "the stone age."
The people of Iraq already lived under a military dictator and now their land, their businesses, their homes, their hospitals and schools were all shut down. Refrigeration was gone, food and medicine was in short supply, jobs were gone. People went without medical help and often without the bare essentials of life.
Some estimates of dead do to the original destruction and the subsequent sanctions exceed one million. Is it any wonder that millions look at the US as the great Satan. There is great potential for good in America and great potential for evil It is the same in all lands and among all people. Bombs are not very discriminating. They 'kill old men, young boy, children and women.'
Before Saddam became our evil enemy he had been our ally against Iran. We enabled him to destroy hundreds of thousands of Iranians with our military aid. Before the ruthless but Royal Shaw was ousted the whole of Iran was our ally and friend. After the removal of one man the whole of Iran became our enemy and worthy of rocket barrages from our then ally good old Saddam. Those battles left thousands of men, women and children dead. What we aided Saddam to do in Iran was a thousand times worse than what he did in Kuwait. One we sanctioned and one we condemned.
When Americans cheered at the destruction of those bombs in Iraq real people were inside being blown apart. They were someone's son, brother, uncle and father. This cannot be done without long term effects. This was not a video game or a spectators movie it was real life and death.
Around the world the United States has been making Americans the "Ugly American" for as long as I can remember. This may not be popular to say but it needs to not be lost sight of. The millions who have died not only by US misguided missiles and bombs but also because of the arbitrary sanctions, imposed restrictions and forced deprivation and of course abundant military aid were real and often left weeping family survivors not willing to quickly forgive the loss.
Is it any wonder that a taxi driver in Egypt might cheer also when a plane fire bombs its way through WTC in the US of A.
I cannot excuse him for his heartless reaction but I cannot excuse Americans either.
Is the solution to bomb Afghanis, who have already been bombed into the stone age by a super power and are still suffering under a controlling regime of men, so that we maybe get Bin Ladin who also was once a US ally and recipient of US military aid? The same government that promoted Bin Ladin now seeks to bring him to 'justice' again at the expense of the poor and innocent, the young and the old, the helpless and infirm.
I cannot keep up with the fickled activities of governments. Of course I do not believe that the government is all that fickled. There seems to be a method in their madness.
Where is the pattern? Well that is another story.
What I ask here is,
Where is the sin?
Is it that all these governments take on the roll of gods deciding who should live and who should die? Thumbs up ...Thumbs down...?
Or is it that "we give" such power to other men making them masters of death on such a massive scale.
The major cause of death in the world is Democide: defined "The murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder." And they don't even count abortions.
The major cause of powerful and roaring governments
is arrogant, selfish, weak and cowardly people.
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Revelation 18:4
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.
How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." -- This quote has been attributed to Julius Caesar but may not have been his words or any other Caesar. Caesar was a title used by the Roman Emperors who were the commander in chiefs of the army and navy of the Roman Empire. While the quote may be anonymous in its origins its truth has been written in blood throughout history.
What does this all have to do with WTC?
I know that when war is necessary there is always "collateral damage". It is inevitable but it is not much comfort to the family survivors.
One of my biggest concerns is that the people seem to be so ignorant of why and what is going on in the world around them. They seem so easily manipulated by the media without a clear perspective of what is happening. For years there has been a war waged for your minds and hearts and the 'world' has all but conquered the people of this earth already.
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him [are] called, and chosen, and faithful. Revelation 17:14
I see Muslim, Hindu, Jew all as potential members of the Kingdom of God on earth if they will do the will of the Father.
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. Matthew 12:50
We need to study to discover what the will of the Father is all about and what it means and the media both worldly and Christian have not got a very clear picture.
And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Revelation 18:23
Addendum
The population of Iraq was about 22 million. I have gone back and calculated the deaths from war and embargo and the
number is around 1,350,000. Which is a little over 5%. That may be the figure
meant. 5% of the US population would be about 12,500,000 people. But in collecting those number I came across information that would create
greater suffering than numbers can relay.
Loose a son in the war and there is bitterness. Hold your child while it dies bitterness goes much deeper. US policies have often produced an going death if not murder of woman and children. If the US meddles in other governments that government and the American people will be associated with what they do by association if not by default.
During the Gulf War, US-led Coalition forces dropped 88,500 tons of
bombs on Iraq, more than were dropped on Europe during WWII. Targets
included electrical generating plants, water treatment facilities, and
sewage treatment plants. Because of the sanctions, Iraq has been unable to
repair or replace these facilities which are vital to the health of the
entire civilian population. As a result, disease has been rampant.
The Iraqi Ministry of Health estimates that 109,720 persons have died
annually between August 1990 and March 1994 as a direct result of the
sanctions.
http://www.againstbombing.com/deaths.htm
Infant death [IM] has more than doubled, Low birth rate quadrupled, typhoid
10 times more, Pneumonia in children more than doubled.
"The increase in mortality reported in public hospitals for children under
five years of age (an excess of some 40,000 deaths yearly compared with
1989) is mainly due to diarrhea, pneumonia and malnutrition. In those over
five years of age, the increase (an excess of some 50,000 deaths yearly
compared with 1989) is associated with heart disease, hypertension,
diabetes, cancer, liver or kidney diseases. With the substantial increase in
mortality, under-registration of deaths is a growing problem."
"Malnutrition was not a public health problem in Iraq prior to the embargo.
Its extent became apparent during 1991 and the prevalence has increased
greatly since then." UNICEF reported that 18% in 1991 to 31% in 1996 of all
children under five suffer from "chronic malnutrition (stunting); 9% to 26%
with underweight malnutrition; 3% to 11% with wasting (acute malnutrition),
an increase in over 200%. By 1997, it was estimated about one million
children under five were [chronically] malnourished."
http://cbdnet.org/trends/sanctions.htm
"This is a 'man-made' public health disaster, whose victims are mainly
people who were not even born until after the Gulf War. It is unacceptable
that the Iraqi civilian population should bear the consequences of an
international political conflict."
http://www.radstats.org.uk/no072/article2.htm
In my search I found more bad news.
Another problem is the environmental effects of radioactive dust from the
depleted uranium (DU) shells. It has been reported that DU is known to cause
kidney failure, cancers and other diseases (Doucet, 1994). During the 43-day
war, the US and Britain fired and dropped 5000-6000 shells containing
between 700 to 800 tons of DU on Iraq (Simons, 1998). It has been suggested
that the DU in these shells has caused the deaths of around 50,000 children
during the first 8 months of 1991 (Doucet, 1994). A recently held
International Symposium on DU Impact concluded in Baghdad on the 3rd of
December 1998 (Ciment, 1998). One research study indicated that large
landscapes in southern Iraq have been polluted by DU radiation, whilst Iraqi
health officials have reported that cancer cases in southern Iraq have
increased by almost 200 % since the outbreak of the war.
As in Vietnam [agent orange, anti personnel mines etc.] and other countries, Iraqi women and children will be suffering for years. America is allowing the government to wreak havoc around the world in their name.
Concerning Agent Orange
Agent Orange is still being blamed for birth defects more than 30 years since its use HANOI, Vietnam -- Vietnamese and U.S. officials have agreed for the first time to study the possible effects of Agent Orange, a toxic chemical defoliant used by the American military during the Vietnam War.
SEE PHOTOS which are worth a thousand words.
http://www9.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/07/04/vietnam.agent.orange/
The above CNN page has RELATED STORIES: RELATED SITES: Get educated.
Here is an article that is in the "hidethis" Archives. You have to purchase it.
Lead Paragraph: Something is very wrong in Cam Nghia. One of every 10 children in the Vietnamese village suffers from a serious birth defect. It is a heart-rending catalog of missing and malformed limbs, cerebral palsy, spina bifida, and mental retardation. In other hamlets throughout the former South Vietnam, adult soft-tissue cancers are unusually prevalent. According to the Vietnamese government, pregnant women have elevated rates of reproductive disorders and spontaneous abortions... more
New Zealand's Agent Orange Victims Promised Help
WELLINGTON, New Zealand, April 10, 2001 (ENS) - Prime Minister Helen Clark has agreed to improve services for Vietnam veterans who claim their health has been damaged by Agent Orange. The toxic herbicide is central to another conflict today as well, between people living near a plant where agricultural herbicides were made and the company that produced them. ...more
Agent Orange, Better killing through chemistry, by Richard Alan-Leach linked
There is little remedy once exposed but here are some thoughts
Your Health and Dioxin (Agent Orange/Herbicide) Exposure by Gary D. Moore
http://www.ultranet.com/~jkimball/BiologyPages/A/AgentOrange.html
We have local concerns about dioxins from the production of Agent Orange. The residue for that production was dumped at Alkali Lake including at least 25,000 barrels of toxic residue and then crushed by the State government into the ground by and literally covered up.
Local citizens are striving to compel the government to clean up the problem that the US government created and the State government covered up.
They would have you believe that every thing is okay as they did in Vietnam and with the veterans of that war that have suffered devastating effects. Now after thirty years the government is starting to concede the truth of the undeniable disaster in health they have caused but still at Alkali Lake they are not willing to admit the danger. There is little population in the county and therefore little political clout. Evidence is coming to light that there is a high rate of cancer and possible birth defects.
They do not have the resources of the thousands of Veterans and the nation of Vietnam so the cover-up continues.
If any one would like to help these rural citizens contact them at:
http://alkalilake.homestead.com/Index.html
25,000 Barrels containing dioxins and other toxic residues stacked before being run over by bulldozers:
http://www.deq.state.or.us/er/vcpmain/factsheets/lake_co/al_index.htm
The wicked is snared by the transgression of [his] lips: but the just shall come out of trouble. Proverbs 12:13
video http://youtu.be/DVHMoeV597c
My Comments concerning Alkali Lake disposal site.
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